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Sunday, April 7, 2013

Some Thoughts

OK, I shamed myself into writing a post. As I have said now time after time, I am amazed at the people that are still reading this. I feel proud and pleased that the posts that are getting read, for the most part, are those dealing with trying to help others deal with MSA and other alphabet diseases. The most popular post over the past year has been my first about stem cell. I understand the allure, I understand the interest. One of the reasons I wrote the post anyway was after an exhaustive research on my part in looking for something to help my wife. I decided after this research that it was a waste of time and money. I still feel this way. I have had some that have written me saying I am taking away hope. I am maybe guilty of taking away what I (and most experts) feel is false hope. Unless you are in a financial position that $30,000 to $40,000 is not an issue to lose, there appears to be no good reason to try what is a risky, and unproven procedure at this point. My opinion is it will remain this way for a long time, if not indefinitely. If you have not read the post, in a nutshell (besides being expensive, dangerous, and unproven) to replace cells that are dying without finding, stopping and preventing the reasons for the cell death, at best you are only prolonging the inevitable. There have been some patients that have had the procedure (in China mostly) that have experienced a "remission" of sorts or even an improvement in symptoms for a while after the procedure. I feel this is due to the placebo effect. Now, I realize if you are better, who cares why or how? There are also patients that have died during or immediately after the procedure. I will stand by my comments.

One other issue I will bring up here is one that has been on my mind of late. That is the issue of "awareness". It seems that all my brethren in the MSA family are hell-bent on awareness. I will admit I do not understand the call. If we were among the first groups afflicted with the disease (I was a caregiver to my wife, who died from complications of MSA), I would understand more. There is plenty of awareness among the medical field where it matters; researchers. However, being realistic, with such a small population being affected one cannot expect a full-out assault like the one on polio or smallpox generations ago. I am not trying to be heartless, I am not trying to be a defeatist. I am a realist. Doctors know of Shy-Drager, if not MSA. Doctors are taught OPCA, and other names for the same or similar diseases. The problem is, unless in a large area or a teaching hospital, they may not see an actual patient in their career. When my wife and I went to UNC Neurological Hospital to see a doctor that specializes in MSA (movement disorders is typically where these doctors are categorized), we found he had three other active patients and had treated less than 20 in his career. His department head said that those numbers were typical of the four doctors they had seeing MSA patients. We found this to hold true at Duke University Medical Center, Medical University of South Carolina, and every other hospital we went to.

One of the complaints I hear that I think are driving the awareness calls are concerning how long it takes for a diagnosis. One has to understand, doctors do not want to give this (or similar) diagnoses. Remember there is no cure or treatment. There are no medicines or drugs to "cure" anything. Yes, there are drugs that can help with the symptoms. Most of these are started when those symptoms are noted anyway, regardless of the diagnosis, or lack of. I know from first-hand (or second-hand if you are looking realistically on me as a caregiver, not a patient) experience how frustrating is can be to go from doctor to doctor, test after test, and visit after visit to try to get a handle on what is going on. But, I also remember the devastation when we got the official diagnosis. (I say official because I and to some degree my wife, had already come to that conclusion from our own research) Doctors want to make sure they rule out any other disease which can have similar symptoms, some of which DO have treatments if not cures. Believe me, as hard as the waiting is one does not want to hear the diagnosis of MSA.

On research: there are many fine, wonderful, dedicated, and devoted researchers that are working on finding a cause, treatment, and ultimately a potential cure for MSA and other alphabet diseases of the brain. I feel the greatest results will come from all the research into the brain and its diseases in general. The brain is one of the least understood organs in the human body. To put it in perspective, it essentially cannot do all it does. We can build computers now that can do computations as complex and intricate as the brain. However, we have never come close to building a machine that can do that and all the simultaneous things the brain does AND have self-awareness. The brain is a wondrous, fantastic, intricately homogenized machine that is a problem waiting to happen. The complex, amazing "dance" performed by this organ can be wrecked if just a few "wires are crossed". When dealing with the myriad of brain diseases like MSA, PSP, DLB, HD, PD, ALS, and others, the research is being done at a "grand level". There is still so much we do not know about the brain that a finding from a researcher studying Huntington's Disease may be a breakthrough for MSA or others. It seems to me that as much as we need to support research into MSA specifically, research into any degenerative brain disease benefits the cause.

I wish all reading this well. I hope you are just doing research out of curiosity not because you or you loved one are suffering with MSA. I will remind you that that are pages here that I did covering my wife's symptoms and what steps we took and/or what devices we used to help. They are under the title "Maybe this will help..." There are three pages. They are not truly chronological, as I wrote them as I thought of them. Plus, I can tell you from talking to other MSA patients, although most get the same symptoms they do not come at the same time or in the same order.

9 comments:

  1. Scott, I do want you to know that I appreciate this posts, and all of them on your blog. My best friend, an under-60 woman, has an MSA diagnosis, and I feel it will help me (a little) if I have more insight into what may be coming. Note all the caveats--I do understand the variability of symptom timing. Thank you for continuing to share your experience.

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  2. Mr Poole--I came across your MSA blog this afternoon by accident but then maybe not by accident. My mother-in-law was diagnosed with MSA a few years ago by a team of doctors at Duke after being misdiagnosed with Parkinson's. I teach at our local high school, and try to help my father-in-law as much as possible. He is retired and is her primary care giver along with a wonderful lady who my father-in-law has hired to come in each day and help him out. In reading many of your blog posts, it has helped me a little more to see things through the eyes of my father-in-law. He is not a man of many words; however, his devotion to his wife has spoke volumes since they started this journey. They just celebrated their 56 anniversary in February. Each time we celebrate something, I try to make it a lasting memory for our family for fear that this may be the last one we will have with her. I have read many of your posts, and it sound so much like my mother-in-law. She was diagnosed with aspiration pneumonia in Jan, and was hospitalized for a week. The ICU doctor told my father-in-law that aspiration pneumonia would probably be what took her. At this point, she is no longer able to walk. We have a hospital bed put up in the living room which helps out a great deal. She requires help in being put in a wheelchair or her recliner. She has no bladder/bowel control. We can also attest to the Walmart products you mentioned that work well:) She also requires thickner in her water and tea. Thank you for sharing so much of this "MSA" journey with others to read. There are so many questions I have for the doctors although I realize they don't have many answers. P Morris Vanceboro NC

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    1. I wish you and your family the best on this horrible journey. If you have anything you think I can help you with, just ask - gumbypoole@aol.com

      If you or your you father-in-law are Facebook people there are a number of sites there that offer support. Just search MSA.

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  3. I just stumbled upon your blog. I find your postings insightful. I do have just one question, why have you changed your position on awareness in just a brief amount of time? I know the heartache and frustration of getting a dx. Has your position changed due to frustration? Thank you in advance for responding.

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  4. I am not sure why you say "changed your position in just a brief amount of time". 1)I have never thought awareness was an end-all. I have been around and involved on the edges of the medical fields most of my life. I also know the frustration of alphabet / rare diseases. However, I am just making the point that awareness is not necessarily accomplishing anything. After all, every one in the medical field and not is aware of the common cold. 2) there has been nothing "brief" about my stance. It has been there all along, but has morphed and matured, as almost all postitions do with time. Thanks for the comments.

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  5. Scott, I agree with your well researched views on stem cell therapy - a costly and risky waste of time giving false hope to desperate patients. On creating awareness for MSA I have to disagree and hope to give you my reasons for this via my blog soon. Thank you for your service to patients through your well written blog.

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  6. Scott, I agree with you about goign to China and spending a lot of money, but for example here in Italy there are a few of ongoing study and clinical trial, with mesenchimal cells on PSP patients. All this studies are FREE for patients. I believe the future is in stem cells, the future. Not now.

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  7. "Awareness" helps me not feel so alone. I am the caretaker. I share with my loved one; he feels understood when he hears about someone else struggling, suffering, with the very same symptoms. To me this is the endgame of "awareness."

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  8. Cindy,
    I definitely understand what you are talking about. One of the most frustrating things about MSA (or most any alphabet disease) is the lack of understanding and knowledge one faces every day. My comment was based on the cry for awareness as an end all. "Awareness" for awareness' sake is what I was talking about. Like I said - everyone is aware of the common cold - what has it accomplished?
    I wish you and your loved one as good a journey as you can have.

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